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Exclusive Netbettor Texas Hold'em Article:

"With a pot already this big, you don’t really care about making it any bigger; what you do care about is winning it as soon as possible".

Large and Multi-way Pots
Your Primary Concern

In this article we’re going to focus on what your primary concerns are when you flop a decent hand a pot that is either already large or being contested multi way pot. By multi-way, we mean a pot that either a) has four or more players currently contesting it, or b) a pot that already contains nine or more small bets.

First, realize that the size of the pot, along with the playing abilities of your opponents, will often dictate how an advanced player chooses to play a hand. If an advanced player has Aheart ADiamond in the hole, for example, and the flop comes Kspade 8heart 3Diamond, the expert player will often play this hand differently in a large or multi-way pot than he would in a small pot, or one being contested by only one or two other players. Why is this, you ask? To help you understand, let me explain by way of example.

Let’s say you have the two red aces, and let’s say the flop comes as it did above; i.e., Kspade 8heart 3Diamond. Further, let’s assume that before the flop a player flipped ten one hundred dollar bills into the pot, and told you and your opponents to ‘go ahead and play for it’. In a case such as this, your playing decisions should be guided by a singular objective; namely, to knock as many players out of the pot as possible. The more players you can knock out, the greater your chances are of scooping this monster pot. Further, notice that your opponents couldn’t hold a single hand that’s ‘drawing dead’ to your hand, since even a horrible hand like 7spade 2Diamond could catch two pair, or a goofy straight, on the turn and river. With a pot already this big, you don’t really care about making it any bigger; what you do care about is winning it as soon as possible.

Once you’ve determined your objective—and by the time the pot gets big, you will have already done so—it’s up to you to decide how best you can accomplish your objective. Typically, you’ll have two choices; either to dump as much money into the pot as possible on the flop, with the hopes that your strong play will dissuade your opponents from continuing, or to play your hand slow on the flop with the intention of springing to life on the turn when the bet doubles. Below we’ll illustrate a few examples of when you should choose the first route, and when you should choose the second.

Example 1
You have Kspade KDiamond in the hole, and are in middle position. The first player calls, as does the next. Everyone in between you and the second caller folds, and you raise. Two players behind you call the raise cold, the small blind folds, the big blind calls, and the two original callers call. There are six of you going to the flop, with 12 ½ small bets in the pot. The flop comes Qspade 8heart 3Diamond. The first two players check, you bet, and the two players behind you just call. The big blind folds, the first caller pre-flop folds, but now the second pre-flop caller check raises you. What should you do?

"How likely is it that playing my hand strong now will persuade my opponents to fold"?

Answer: Re-raise. This seems like a no-brainer, but upon closer inspection you’ll see that if a couple factors were slightly different you could construct a strong case for just calling here with the intention of raising the turn when the check-raiser bets. The first key here is that there are two players left to act behind you, neither of which have shown any strength. By three-betting here you have a chance of getting at least one, and maybe both, of these players to fold, thereby leaving you heads up in a 20 ½ small bet pot against a player who you probably (but not always) have beaten. The second key is that the there is no flush draw possible on the flop, which further indicates that your opponents do not hold hands that they would gladly pay an extra two more bets to continue with. If the flop came Qspade 8heart 3spade you might worry that one of your three opponents held two spades in the hole. In this case you might want to just call the raise, and then raise the turn (or bet if your opponent checks) if a third spade didn’t hit the board.

When deciding whether or not to raise here, the primary question with which you need to be concerned is this: ‘How likely is it that playing my hand strong now will persuade my opponents to fold?’ The higher the probability of this happening, the more often you should raise. In order to determine how likely it is that your opponents will fold, try this little exercise; ask yourself the following questions, and assign an answer between one and five.

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If your answers are more towards the ‘5’s than the ‘1’s, be more inclined to play your hand strong from the start. If the answers typically fall more towards the ‘1’s, you should consider waiting for the turn to try and knock out your opponents. The reason for this is that the closer your answers are to the ‘1’s, the less likely it is that significant flop action is going to get anyone out. As a result, you’d rather wait and see the turn before committing a ton of chips to the pot.

Example 2
You have ADiamond Aspade on the button. Two middle position players call, the player to your right raises, you three-bet, both blinds call, the two middle position players call and the player to your right caps it at four bets. All call. Six players to the flop for 24 small bets. The flop comes Jheart 9heart 6spade. All check to the player on your right who bets. What is your play?

Answer: Call, and wait for the turn to raise. The keys to the hand are this: first, by capping it before the flop, you can usually put the player to your right on a big pair in the hole. This means you can be fairly confident that he’ll bet the turn again if you just call the flop bet, which will give you a chance to raise. Second, and this is very important, there aren’t many hands your opponents could have that would incline them to continue on for one bet, but fold for two bets. This again is an argument against raising. If the flop were less coordinated you might want to consider raising here, since at that point there would be a large number of possible hands that your opponents would like to continue with for one bet but not two. But not with this flop. It’s fairly coordinated, and the hands you would like to have fold—namely inside straight draws, and hands like Aspade 9spade and 5club 7club aren’t going to fold here for two bets. Remember, the pot is now huge. Anyone who has any piece of the flop is going to take a look at the turn regardless of how bad their hand is. But, by waiting to raise on the turn, you’re going to force your opponents to call two big bets cold if they want to soldier on. So, while playing the flop strongly won’t get anyone out, playing the turn strongly just might.

Yes, you run the risk of getting outdrawn by a player who would have folded for two bets on the flop. But sometimes you just have to take that chance. If your options are to either a) playing the hand in a way such that your opponents will see the turn 90% of the time, but only see the river 20% of the time, or b) playing your hand in a way such that your opponents will see the turn 60% of the time, and the river 60%, you would typically choose route ‘a’.

As with most poker decisions it’s often hard to make the right play all the time. Even the pros make mistakes. But if you remember your objective—i.e., ‘What manner of play will get my opponents to fold the fastest"—you’ll find yourself making the right decision more often than not.

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